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3/3/2010 2:00:44 PM
 
superJMuser
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Best Revit Computer Specs  

Okay, I wanted to start a dialogue about computer technology for Revit.  I have attached a few Autodesk related items that you can take a look at too.

Here's my take in my experience and reading other forums about others' experience using Revit.

1)  RAM:  The biggest things you can do is get A LOT of fast RAM.  If you can afford it, get a new computer with at least 8 GB of dual channel RAM.  I would suggest RAM running a frequency of 1066 mhz.  Usually this is called out as DDR2 1066 or PC2-8500 RAM.  If you can afford the upgrade and have a motherboard that can support it, I would suggest DDR3 1333 mhz in triple channel (identical sticks in sets of 3).  Most new motherboards supporting this technology will have 6 DIMM slots instead of 4.  Also, related to this, you should see some performance gain when using the new Intel Core Series of processors, due to the new integrated memory controller.

2)  CPU:  The CPU is the next biggest thing.  Almost all mainstream processors out there are at least dual core, and many new computers offer quad core.  Here's my take:

a.  Get the fastest processor you can afford.  What I mean is, I would probably get a 3.2 ghz dual core over a 2.4 ghz quad core, unless you are doing a lot of multi-tasking.  Currenlty, Revit doesn't support multiple cores with the exception of a few areas like printing and wall cleanups, and of course Rendering (currently limited to 4 cores).  There is every indication that Autodesk is working on multi-core support, but given the complexity of the database structure with tons of co-dependencies, it may be a few more releases before Revit is optimized across most of the platform for multi-core support.

b.  Get the CPU with the larger amount of L2 cache, assuming all other things equal.  This is a suggestion by Autodesk as well, as the program takes great advantage of the L2 cache.  I have seen this as a peformance difference as well.

c.  Core i7 turbo mode.  This is really huge, as I tested a laptop that had a core i7 1.8 ghz processor in it, and with Turbo mode working, Revit ran at almost 3 ghz for the majority of it's single threaded operations.  This can be a big cost saver if you anticipate being able to utilize this feature, and your budget is tight.  As I mentioned previously, if you can affort a "out of the box" Frequency of 3 ghz or more, go with that.  You'll only see greater results with a processor like that, when turbo mode puts you up to 3.4 ghz or more!

3)  Hard drive/Graphics Card:  this one is a toss up for me.  If you are doing a lot of work in 3D views, or Rendering, the Graphics Card would probably be the best bang for the buck.  If you are using a more traditional workflow like me, where you work in Plan section and elevation, I think the Graphics card doesn't have as much of an impact yet, and I prefer to see my entire computer perform better with the used of a 10K or 15K SATA 2 Hard Drive.  There has been much talk also about using Solid State drives, and assuming they benchmark in Revit similiar to other applications, you should see a large performance increase while loading and saving files, not to mention just overall better response and performance in your entire Computer.

a.  In relation to this, I would suggest having at least 2 drives, one for your operating system, and one for your files.  This enhances data security should your OS get a virus, as it most likely will only affect the OS on that drive, and you'll also see added performance as you know have two drives with which to read and write data (one for the OS and pagefile, and one for your Revit File and other files).

b.  As far as the Graphics Card goes, I would suggest just going with a Desktop level card.  Since Revit has gone Direct 3D, I don't see any reason to pay outlandish cost for a Workstation card like a Quadro when you can get a GeForce card with double the performance at half the price.  There may come a day when the Quadro cards are optimized for Revit, but currently I don't believe you will see enough of a difference to merit the difference in Cost.  If you are working 3Ds Max or 3D AutoCAD, that's a whole different story.

For the GeForce Card, try getting a card with (preferable) 1 GB of on board RAM, as this will greatly reduce the load on your CPU while regenerating 3D views.  Obviously the faster the GPU, the better.  I would look for core clock speeds greater than 600 mhz if you can afford it.

I would love to answer any questions or hear other peoples stories/thoughts related to this post.

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8/13/2010 5:28:23 PM
 
Randi
7 Posts
Joined 08/13/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

This is very useful info, especially for some one like me that works in IT for an architectural firm.  That basically means I help support Revit but don't use it daily, so I don't know too much about it.  Which version of Revit were you testing the i7 on?  I ran benchmark tests on 2 different i7's, and the results were terrible.

8/15/2010 10:47:47 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Hi, I'm really sorry for such a delayed response...I am usually much better at responding promptly.  I was testing on Revit 2010 when I did the core i7 test on the laptop.

The comparison was to itself, in saying that the core i7 not in turbo mode would obviously be slower than in turbo mode.  I was very please with how turbo mode took the core i7 slower multicore capability to a high speed single core when only 1 thread was being used.  I see this as very valuable because many operation in Revit are only single threaded.

I'd love to answer any other questions...hopefully all that makes sense.

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superJMuser
8/15/2010 10:50:09 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Randi

P.S...I would need to know the specs of the rest of the computer you tested with i7's on them, to get an idea of why you would have gotten poor benchmarks...what was the speed of the i7's you were testing?...were you using the AUbench 2010 file I posted in this forum to do your tests?  If so, you can get a comparison of some of the machines I have tested.

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superJMuser
8/15/2010 11:21:38 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

P.S...the multi-threaded file open and reload in Revit 2011 has really made large file open and reload much faster with multi-threaded processors...another plus for core i7 with turbo boost I think...gain the benefit of multithreading on file open and reload while still having the turbo boost on single threaded operations!

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superJMuser
8/15/2010 11:39:10 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

one more thing...I think (haven't tested this much cuz I haven't gotten my hands on the hardware yet) that fast triple channel memory is going to make Revit much faster as well.  Revit is a memory hog, so the faster and the more you have, the better.  I'll be interested to see some benchmarks with a high end core i7 machine with triple channel memory.

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superJMuser
8/16/2010 12:42:10 AM
 
Bishop
4 Posts
Joined 08/16/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

sir just want to ask about my computer specs which i am using "Widows 7, Processor: intel(R) core(TM)i5 cpu 750@2.67GHZ 2.66 GHZ, installed memory(RAM) 4.00 GB (3.46 GB usable), system type:32 Bit" , im using Revit MEP 2011....every time i try to open my 125 mb revit file, the program is informing me that my copmputer has a low memory

8/16/2010 9:07:35 AM
 
Randall
4 Posts
Joined 06/22/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Why spend so much money on computer hardware?  The future is in cloud technology.  Reducing IT expense is big in the industry this year and will be in the years to come.   If your interested in any of the following business benefits lets talk.

Collaborating Over Wide Area Geography
Collaborating with Outside Firms on the Same Model
IT Infrastructure Cost Consolidation
Regional Office IT Infrastructure Consolidation
General Purpose Business Applications
Full Mobility
IT Automation and Support Reduction
Business Continuity, Disaster Recovery, and Security
Locked Down Corporate Desktops, Unlocked Personal Laptops
Rendering and Animation Farm

 

My company is delivering a Private Cloud solution we call "The Vertical BIM Cloud".  Call us.

http://caddforce.com/

 

Randall

8/16/2010 9:21:09 AM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Bishop

Bishop,

Your problem is you are running a 32 bit OS (from what I gathered in the information you gave me.  You need to be running 64-bit, which shouldn't be a problem for your hardware.  It will require a clean install of the operating system and all of your programs, so you need to make sure and back up all your files before doing so.

32-bit systems (no matter how much it tells you have available) can only use up to 2 GB of RAM, unless you enable the 3GB switch in your boot.ini file (at least that's how you did it in Windows XP).

I have always ran 64-bit Vista and Windows 7 so I don't have a lot of experience related to enabling the 3GB switch for these Operating Systems, but honestly, I wouldn't recommend it.

A 125 MB Revit file is getting fairly big, but it's far from large compared to project I have worked on.

Your machine is erroring out because you need 64-bit OS and Revit installed.  You don't have to do anything special now-a-days to install 64 bit Revit.  I believe they package them together in the same installer, so just get your computer installed with Windows 7 64-bit and you should be okay.  I would eventually suggest upgrading your RAM to 8 GB if you can, but 4 GB is okay for most smaller to medium size projects.

Hope that helps.  Feel free to ask any other questions!

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superJMuser
8/16/2010 9:23:33 AM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Randall

Hey Randall,

Thanks for the Reply and good info.  Yes, we have been discussing the cloud at my office, however, our IT guy is planning on doing it locally, with the cloud being a few really fast machines set up in our server room and lower end efficient client machines at everyones stations.

The future will be interesting!

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superJMuser
8/16/2010 9:52:36 AM
 
Randall
4 Posts
Joined 06/22/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

superJ,

Depending on the size of your firm it could be a better solution to host your own cloud in house, although if your pushing over 30 users you may want to take a closer look into a hosting service.  Supporting the infrastructure can be very costly and there are many tricks we have developed over the past couple of years to improve performance and maximize user productivity.  If you are less than 30 I would not suggest that you host all of your business applications on the cloud, there can be a lot of security risks if your IT doesn't have the experience of implementing cloud technology.  I would be happy to discuss discuss this further if you wish, you can contact me through my website or @ 1-877-577-2233 toll free.

 

Thanks,

Randall

8/17/2010 12:23:33 PM
 
Randi
7 Posts
Joined 08/13/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

SuperJ - thanks again for all of this info.  I did not use AUbench file you posted; I did the testing before I found this forum.  I now realize that the problem is that the benchmark test that I was told about was for RAC 2009, which to my knowledge doesn't have any features that use more than 2 cores other than rendering.  Since I am not a user, the benchmark test was all I had.  Here's the test I used:

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?p=910725

My firm is currently using both RAC 2010 and 2011 (both 64-bit), but I thought the benchmark test would at least give me something to go on without having to do the following: 1)purchase a machine, 2)deploy it to a heavy Revit user, and 3)hope for the best.  The machines were each "try and buy" machines from 2 different vendors, so I didn't have a lot of time before I had to return them.  Here are their specs:

1.  Dell M4500 i7-720QM, 8 GB DDR3 SDRAM
2.  Dell M4500 i7-920XM, 8 GB DDR3 SDRAM
3.  HP EliteBook 8740w i5-520M, 8 GB DDR3 SDRAM

8/17/2010 12:39:19 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Randi

Very cool...yeah, those benchmark files should work, but I'm not sure if they are exactly the same as what I have posted here...I got the ones here from AUGI as well, so they are probably all essentially the same.  I'll have to take a look at that though.  I have outlines how to use them in the thread links below (at least the ones I have posted).

I would think those machines would fly!  Myself and I'm sure the rest of the Revit community would greatly appreciate it if you would post your results to the forum in the format I have outlined in these threads (one for 2010 and one for 2011):

Computer Benchmarking/Performance for Revit - AUbench 2010

Computer Benchmarking/Performance for Revit - AUbench 2011

If you run into any issues, please let me know!

And for a little encouragement (hopefully some of the other users will actually do this), If you are reading this and would like to see Rhandi's performance benchmarks posted for the machines he's testing, reply to this post and give him some encouragement! 

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superJMuser
8/17/2010 12:45:28 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Randi

So, just curious, why are you going for laptops?  While I know that laptops are good for the obvious portability reasons, it seems like a desktop would get you a lot more bang for your buck...??

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superJMuser
8/17/2010 12:59:15 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

I was just doing a little reading, and apparently there is a side bar gadget for intel turbo boost technology...that might be an easy way for you to see what portions of Revit are single threaded vs. multithreaded, and also see how much of a boost you are getting...good stuff!

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superJMuser
8/17/2010 1:04:09 PM
 
R. Robert Bell
23 Posts
Joined 04/20/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

We went with laptops in a few instances for specific reasons:

  1. I have a laptop because as the Design Technology Manager I need to be able to use the software where ever I am and to use while conducting training sessions.
  2. We have a couple of loaner laptops so designers can take the models and software to a big room meeting and work on issues in real-time.

But most of our Revit workstations are non-portable.

 

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R. Robert Bell
8/17/2010 1:56:09 PM
 
Randi
7 Posts
Joined 08/13/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Workstations are no doubt a better value, and most of our users are still on workstations; but we've been entertaining the idea of getting more users on laptops because so many of them travel (easily 75%).  And the machines do fly with otherwise, but the test returned such mediocre results, that I questioned the performance of the processor.  I had to send the Dells back but I still have the HP w/the i5, so I'll attempt your tests within the next 50 hours.

And by the way, give HER some encouragement.  : )  Thanks again!

8/17/2010 2:04:50 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Randi

Yeah, I hear you on travel stuff...I'm very interested to see what results you get as they compare to the benchmarks of the machines I have already posted.

Oh, and sorry...I should have figured that when your name was spelled with an "i" insteady of a "y"...I have a good buddy of mine named "Randy", so I didn't think twice about it.

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superJMuser
8/17/2010 2:14:41 PM
 
Randall
4 Posts
Joined 06/22/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Buy your people an $800 laptop that will run for 4 years and give them access to the cloud.  No more benchmarking, no more searching for the best workstation or laptop, no more dropping thousands on hardware, the list goes on.  This is.

Randall

8/17/2010 2:23:02 PM
 
Randi
7 Posts
Joined 08/13/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Randall

That's what I'm hoping for Randall, but I'm at the mercy of my boss - that project belongs to him.  I'm doing what I can to put in my 2 cents, but ultimately it's up to him to make it happen.  I really hope he does because it will not only save the company money, but save my time (the most important thing, of course).

8/17/2010 3:03:46 PM
 
RevitBOXX
1 Posts
Joined 06/18/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Randi

What about a laptop with a workstation grade processor vs the mobile processor?

8/17/2010 3:14:30 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  RevitBOXX

Yeah, that'd be good to have benchmarks for too...I used to have a high end desktop replacement back when Pentium 4 hyperthreaded processors were top of the line.  Since then, I haven't had the money to shell out 3500 dollars on another one.

Check out the laptops at www.sagernotebook.com

That's where I bought my pentium replacement years ago.  They have some insane laptops now...The high end desktop core i7's, up to like 12 GB or triple channel 1333 RAM, up to like 3 HDD in RAID and possible dual graphics cards.

That's like the high end model though, and if you do all of it, your battery life (running full force) is probably only about an hour (on a 12 cell litium) and it will cost you like 7K....but man, if you had the money to spend, it would be the ultimate desktop replacement in terms of performance (not very portable though).

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superJMuser
8/17/2010 3:35:01 PM
 
Randi
7 Posts
Joined 08/13/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

That's part of the problem with the HP - geez is that thing a monster.  Reasonable cost, but I don't need the 17" display or the additional 9-key keypad on the keyboard.  We've been Dell exclusive since 2005, but they have been producing garbage the last couple of years (at least the laptops have been), so I wanted to change to Lenovo or HP.  I wanted to go with Lenovo from the get-go and I'm finding more and more reasons to do so.  Hopefully I can get them to send me a test machine as well!

8/17/2010 3:47:47 PM
 
Randall
4 Posts
Joined 06/22/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Randi

Here is your laptop:

HP EliteBook Mobile Workstation 8540w
Core i7 620M / 2.66 GHz ( 3.33 GHz ) - vPro - RAM 8 GB - HDD 320 GB - DVD±RW (±R
DL) / DVD-RAM - Quadro FX 880M - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11 a/b/g/n, Bluetooth
2.1 EDR - TPM - fingerprint reader, SmartCard reader - Windows 7 Pro / XP Pro downgrade

Can get them all day for $2800

 

Randall

12/3/2010 3:22:23 PM
 
Tautvydas
2 Posts
Joined 12/03/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Hey,

It looks like you know what you are talking about, so I could really use your advice about choosing the right CPU. If you be kind enough to help me, of course. :) I use my desktop for Revit, AutoCAD, Photoshop, 3ds max and that kind of software. Could you recommend few CPUs for maximum pleasure of working? What CPU you would choose for yourself at the moment?

Very grateful for the help.. :)

12/3/2010 3:30:31 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Tautvydas

 Hi, Welcome to the forum!

Well, of course, it always depends on money.  That said, I am going to recommend a few things.  First of all, if you can, buy in Intel system.  While the AMD setups are generally cheaper, I don't think they perform near as well, particularly the new Core line of Intel CPUs compared to the supposedly equivalent AMD CPUs.

Turbo boost is a god-send for Revit, so find an intel Core i# processor with Turbo boost.  I'm not an expert in which of their processors have it and which don't.

I would suggest getting a quad core, but if it comes down to money and getting a 2.4 ghz quad or a 3+ ghz dual core, get the 3ghz dual core, especially if you can get one of the core i5 dual cores, because I believe they are hypertheading, so you still have 4 virtual cores.

The core i7s support faster RAM, which will help you as well, so if you can afford it...lol...get you the fastest core i7 quad core you can afford.  I wouldn't recommend anything slower than 3ghz, if you can afford it.  Those core i7's have hyperthreading too, so that's 8 virtual cores at your disposal.  I believe they have turbo mode as well, which should help you in photoshop and Revit, when the program is only using 1 core.

Do you have a max budget?  If so, I can make some more specific recommendations.

If I could afford it, I would get one of the new intel Zeon hexa-core processors (12 virtual cores).  Those systems are really expensive though, so for me, buying it personally, I would end up with a high end Core i7 processor with at least 12 GB of triple channel DDR3 at min 1333 mhz.

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Last Edit on:12/3/2010 4:47:52 PM
12/3/2010 4:44:11 PM
 
Tautvydas
2 Posts
Joined 12/03/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

 Thank you very much for such a quick reply! Your post was very useful to me. :)

 

12/8/2010 11:48:30 PM
 
ScubaSteve0827
3 Posts
Joined 12/08/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

 "I would end up with a high end Core i7 processor with at least 12 GB of triple channel DDR3 at min 1333 mhz."

superJMuser,

I am currently building the computer you last described.  I am putting a set of 24 GB DDR3 at 1333 mhz instead of 12 though.  After reading this thread you seem very well informed and I have a question for you about the graphics card you ideally would put in a system like this for running architectural software such as Revit, 3Ds Max and Photoshop?

I have been looking at both workstation and desktop cards and am unsure what is the best direction.  I am also unsure whether to go Nvidea or ATI being the FirePro card or the Quadro.......or the Radeon and the GTX series.  I would greatly appreciate your advice.

Scubasteve

12/9/2010 12:17:43 AM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  ScubaSteve0827

 Scubba,

24 GB is great.  It will definitely help you in your ability to have Photoshop, Revit, 3dsMAX, etc. open at the same time when necessary.

As far as graphics cards, this is tricky.  I have always been partial to NVIDIA, but I have heard the ATI cards have gotten much more competitive than they used to be.  I think I still like the software that NVIDIA has better though.

As far as Quadro vs. GeForce (or the like for ATI), I would say it depends on how much 3dsMAX you are doing.  If you mostly plan on using it as a render tool, and not a whole lot of intensive modeling, I would go with GeForce GTX.

If you are gonna be doing a lot of 3dsMAX, modeling, 3D work, etc, than the Quadro Cards (and their associated performance driver configurations for 3dsMAX) would give you a significant performance boost that Revit won't currently utilize.

Personally, I would get the best (or even dual SLI) GeForce GTX cards, and save some money.  And if you have money left over, get a faster processor than you were originally thinking.

 I hope this helps you.  If something doesn't make sense, please feel free to write back...and by the way, welcome to the forum.

Always glad to help.

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superJMuser
12/9/2010 12:27:46 AM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  ScubaSteve0827

 I should probably clarify one bit:

The performance drivers I was referring to are for NVIDIA Quadro Cards only.  To get the good cards that have 512 MB and up of RAM, you are looking at probably around $1,000 for just the graphics card (or more depending on the amount of RAM, etc.).

You can get a high end desktop card for like 350-400 dollars, and if you need more power, you could always but another one and put them in SLI.

What I have noticed, at least currently, the inner working of Revit DO NOT utilize the graphics card potential the same way that 3dsMAX would.  So a Desktop card is fine (get like 1 GB of RAM on the desktop card if you can).

As I previously mentioned, you will see a performance increase using the Quadro Cards, when you compare apples to apples.  What I mean is, cost aside, a 600 mhz core and 1 GB RAM on both cards, the Quadro card will beat the desktop card if it is using the performance drivers built for 3DSmax, by a good margin too.  Basically, you are paying for the driver software and the fine tuning done to the cards to be specific to the program/work.

All that said, in my architectural process, I would model as much as I could in Revit (better use downstream for Construction Documentation) and use 3dsMAX for high end renderings and animations.  My process isn't graphics intensive in 3dsMAX, so I would go with a high end desktop card.  Again, if you plan on doing a lot of 3D modeling, etc. and 3dsMAX itself, it might be worth the $$$$$$ to upgrade to the Quadro (workstation) series cards.

Hope that helps.

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superJMuser
12/9/2010 3:07:14 AM
 
olopez
20 Posts
Joined 10/12/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

I totally agree with you about the specs.

Only one question,

have you tried a SSD hard drive to save projects?,  maybe it can help decreasing read/write times, a real problem when you work in la large project.

12/9/2010 4:04:16 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  olopez

 Yes, I can't remember the name of it, but I think it's OCZ PCI-express based SSDs.  They were in a RAID 0 and it was FAST!  Saving, opening, booting windows, etc.  If you have the money, it's well worth the upgrade.  However, again, in terms of just talking about Revit, if it came down to a faster hard drive or a faster processor, I'd take the faster processor.  The majority of the speed pickup happens with the faster processor...

But hey, if you have an unlimited budget, deck it out!  haha!

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superJMuser
12/10/2010 2:16:06 AM
 
ScubaSteve0827
3 Posts
Joined 12/08/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

 superJMuser,

Thank you so much for all of the very detailed information about the video cards.  You have been extremely informative and you definitely helped me with the build.

"All that said, in my architectural process, I would model as much as I could in Revit (better use downstream for Construction Documentation) and use 3dsMAX for high end renderings and animations.  My process isn't graphics intensive in 3dsMAX, so I would go with a high end desktop card."

I use an identical architectural process so I will most likely be going with the Nvidea gaming card as you suggested.

My build looks like this:

Intel Core i7 Quad-Core at 3.06 mhz

24 GB DDR3 ram at 1333 mhz

 GIGABYTE LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

 Nvidea GeForce GTX 580 or GTX 480

Antec Earthwatts 650w Power Supply

Are there any tweaks you might do to this system?  Would you have an SSD or an SAS card?  Would it be better to go with dual less powerful video cards or a single more powerful/expensive video card?

Thank you so much again

Scubasteve

 

 

Last Edit on:12/10/2010 2:16:28 AM
12/10/2010 2:53:22 AM
 
olopez
20 Posts
Joined 10/12/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  ScubaSteve0827

Go for a faster memory if you can afford it, (1600 or 2000 mhz) and if you change the cpu cooler for a Noctua series for example, you can try a simple overclock up to 3,6 -3,8 Ghz whit no problems.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=228788

I overclocked a i7 920 (2,66 ghz) up to 3,4 and the system is completly stable.

12/10/2010 7:18:01 AM
 
XS10TL1
1 Posts
Joined 09/24/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Thanks for these posts, I'm gearing up for a new machine and this information is invaluable.

I know you guys writing know this, but for the readers can you please comment further on the importance of a high quality power supply and the types of CPU cooling you recommend?

I started building my own machines 5 years ago after getting tired of name brands going down every 3 years, and cannot overstress the importance of using a top of the line power supply and adequate cooling. The heat sinks that come with the CPU's just don't cut it, in my opinion.  My oldest machine is 5 years and still going strong.

 

12/10/2010 5:53:34 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  XS10TL1

You are right.  

If you are doing a custom build, make sure and get a good case and a good heat sync, ESPECIALLY if you plan to overclock.  I haven't delved into all the liquid cooling.  I have found that I spend enough time as it is trying to get a stable O.C. with just the stuff I have (air cooling), without having to worry about all the liquid cooling stuff.  

Hotter parts wear down faster, and can get unstable at lower overclock values due to wear and tear.  Make sure your case and heat sink are providing plenty of cooling to your hardware.  I'm not an expert on power supplies, but when you are putting in a ton of cash into a computer, spending an extra 30 bucks to get a good quality power supply (vs. the alternative of the cheapest brand you can find) is probably a good idea.

Always glad to help.

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superJMuser
12/11/2010 8:13:25 PM
 
mbarr
1 Posts
Joined 12/11/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Hi,  Thank you for all of the great information.

I am looking to purchase a new laptop to run Revit 2011,  3DStudio Max, and Adobe CS5 software. The specs that I am looking at are:

Processor:  Intel i7 940xm 2.13GHZ with turbo boost 8MB Cache

Graphics Card: 1GB NVIDIA Quadro FX3800

Ram: 12GB DDR3-1333GHz SDRAM 4dimm slots

Hard Drive: Either a.)320GB 7200rpm hard drive with FFS  OR  b.) 256GB Mobility Solid State Drive.

My questions are:

1.Will this system efficiently move through renderings and all around revit performance?  I am concerned with the 2.13GHz processor.  Would it be safe to say that it is essentialy a 3.33GHz processor because of the turbo boost or does the turbo boost not always kick in for revit modeling and rendering?   If price is not a factor,  would you go with    a.)  i7  2.13GHz Quad Core turbo boost 8MB Cache     OR    b.)  i7 2.8GHz Dual Core turbo boost 4MB Cache?  Which processor would be faster if you were modeling and rendering in Revit/3DStudio Max? I've read some articles where Revit may not use all cores. 

2. Would you recommend a normal hard drive or a solid state drive if they were essentialy the same GB?  Price not a factor. 

3.  Would you ever recommend Raid1 with two hard drives for redundancy so that if one drive goes down everything remains intact and does not impact production with down time.  Or would this be overkill.  Price not a factor.

4. Lastly are there any additional recommendations:  specs, ports, connections, etc...  to order on the laptop to improve revits performance.

Thanks again for all of the great information.

 

 

 

12/11/2010 11:26:49 PM
 
ScubaSteve0827
3 Posts
Joined 12/08/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  ScubaSteve0827

I intended on buying a Nvidea Geforce GTX 480 or 580 gaming card for my architectural work (or even a 470 or 570), but these cards aren't listed on the Revit 2011 recommended graphics hardware.  Should this be with the new 2012 release or is it more of a gamble on how well it will work?  I see the more expensive Quadros cards on there though...

http://www.autodesk.com/us/revit/revit_graphics_hardware_list_June02.html

The same goes for 3DS Max

http://download.autodesk.com/us/qualcharts/2011/3dsmax2011_qualifiedgraphics_win.pdf

Am I just over thinking this and the cards should work fine now that they support DirectX 10 & 11 or is this a legitimate concern?

It looks like the newer ATI gaming cards aren't on either list too.

I would appreciate any help.

Thanks,

Scubasteve

Last Edit on:12/11/2010 11:29:56 PM
12/13/2010 3:20:20 AM
 
olopez
20 Posts
Joined 10/12/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  XS10TL1

If wou're going to OC the CPU and one day update your graphics to SLI, think in the extra power you need, I will go for a 600W minimum.

I also prefer a modular power supply and connect only the cables I need for a better air movement in the case.

 

3/10/2011 2:16:57 PM
 
RevitBazzy
5 Posts
Joined 03/10/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Oke, i'm new here but i really could use your input.

I am working for a small architectutal office in the netherlands, my boss asked me to put togehter a new system since we are going over to Revit Architectual 2011 and the systems need replacement.

Now i hate prebuild system since there always seems to be something wrong with them in my mind. I've build my own systems for a long time now, but now that my boss wants me to spend a lot of money i really would appreciate some input on my choices.

So here is what i've put together, please give me your comments:

(sorry it is from a dutch site but i am sure you will get it)

hd: Intel 510 Series, 120GB (ssd)

http://www.informatique.nl/115790/intel-510-series-120gb.html

 

Motherboard: Asus P6T6 WS Revolution, S1366, X58, 6XDDR3, ATX

http://www.informatique.nl/123643/asus-p6t6-ws-revolution.html

 

processor: Intel Core i7-970, 3.20GHz, 12MB, S1366

http://www.informatique.nl/131719/intel-core-i7-970.html

 

casing: http://www.informatique.nl/350283/antec-nsk4000b-ii.html (had to be cheap somewhere)

 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Genesis 12GB(6x2) DDR3 1600MHz XMP

http://www.informatique.nl/517376/kingston-hyperx-khx1600c9d3k6/12gx.html

 

Power supply: Corsair CX Builder series 600W 80+

http://www.informatique.nl/517435/corsair-cx-builder-series-600w-80+.html

 

Proc cooler: Scythe Mugen 2 Rev.B

http://www.informatique.nl/892146/scythe-mugen-2-rev.b.html

 

VIdeo: Asus GeForce GTX 570, 1280MB, DirectCU II

http://www.informatique.nl/124932/asus-engtx570-dcii/2dis/128.html

  

I think Revit shoud run fine on a michine like this. But please let me know what you think. Any comments will be appreciated, we will be running medium sized projects mostly i think. I cannot give any idea about filesizes since we are not working with revit right now. But we will work from a server. My guess is we will probably copy files locally to work with them from the ssd disk and then copy them to the server for storing at the end of the day.

 

Thanks in advance for any input.

Last Edit on:3/10/2011 2:31:50 PM
3/10/2011 2:41:14 PM
 
Scenetwenty6
1 Posts
Joined 10/06/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  RevitBazzy

This is a build I am considering for a LAPTOP capable of running Revit fairly effectively while away from the office and workstation. The new sanydbridge (2nd Gen i7's) are just making there way to the builders it seems; it is still fairly difficult to find a wide selection of roust machines offering them, but the specs and reviews on these chips suggest that it's worth the wait. The following is based on a value-based approach to travel-ready mahine (don't want to be carrying around 17" screen). Battery life is expected to be poor at best due to demands of quad processor, but performance of machine should be pretty good. You'll note that this is a gaming machine. I've stayed away from the business machines due to the fact that few/none offer the new chips and the cost to benefits is hard to justify.

If others have thoughts on improvement / or other suggestions please make them. 

The other strong contender may be an ASUS 53SW, but 1) it hasn't been released yet, and 2) the upgrade to the 2720qm is much higher than the machine spec'd below. 

From XOTIC.COM

Sager NP8130 / Clevo P151HM1 - Out Of Stock ETA March
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen-
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- -2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2720QM, 2.2-3.3GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 460M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)-
- Standard Finish
- ~ Combo Dual Laye~ 6X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - When Selecting, Optical Drive is NOT Included
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- None Standard--
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC) 
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs

- No Xotic PC Gear

$1,439.00

 

3/10/2011 2:52:16 PM
 
RevitBazzy
5 Posts
Joined 03/10/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Scenetwenty6

Oke, thank you for your reply. If revit will run oke on a machine like that it must surely run nicely on what i've put together right? Before i tell my boss to order a couple of machines like that i would like to know for sure i've put together a nice revit machine.. otherwise $10.000 down the drain... he won't be happy with that ;)

3/10/2011 3:03:37 PM
 
bizz3d
7 Posts
Joined 01/30/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  RevitBazzy

At my office Ive been testing both Dell high end & custom builds. Based of what I have seen custom is the only way to go, so good job going this route.

The being said, I would make some changes to your selection and Ill start from the top.

Hard drive: SSD is a great choice but I would change it to a PCI-E slot and not a SATA.

Motherboard: This is preference, I would go with EVGA classified (any SLI) or Gigabyte. Both perform very well and have amazing overclock features if you ever plan to go that way.

Processor: i7-970 again great choice but if you plan to overclock the i7-980x is a much better choice.

Case: This is also preference but one key feature you must have is fans. minimum I would recommend is 4. If you can get CoolMaster HAF X is a fantastic choice. Super quite and tons of air moving around. It has 3-200mm fans and 1-80mm. It als has a special case for the power supply. The power supply pulls air from the outside and it goes right back out. Not one bit stays in the case. I cant stress enough how important keeping computers cool is.

Memory: I like G.skill and Corsair and at 1600MHz is good. If you plan to overclock I would go higher like 1800 or 2000. If you only plan to get 12gb then get (3x4) setup. This runs much better since it uses only the 3 slots for all for your ram plus giving you room to expand to 24gb.

Power supply: I wouldnt go with anything under 800W 80+. Corsair is a great pick so I wouldnt change the brand. Just make sure its modular so you dont have so many cables to deal with.

Processor cooler (Heat Sink): I would go wtih Noctua NH-D14 its super quite and moves tons of air. With the case I mentioned the heat sink fans and rear case fans line up perfectly so none of the hot air stays around. The case also has a 200mm fan right above the heat sink. So its guaranteed to kick out any hot air coming from it.

Graphics card: The GeForce GTX 570 is perfect but go with EVGA version. The cooling is much better, even though they look similar they ar not. I would also spend a little more for the Overclocked version. Runs much better. Of course the GTX 580 would be better & if you do go with that one, also go wtih the overclocked one.

Everything listed above is from my experience with both Revit Architecture and Structural. Im sure others may have a different idea but this setup works for a powerful workstation with room to grow.

3/10/2011 3:55:33 PM
 
RevitBazzy
5 Posts
Joined 03/10/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  bizz3d

Bizz3d, thanks a million for your input! this is the type of information i was looking for. It is getting a little late here now to look into it but i will make sure to do it in the morning! Thanks again and i will put my final choices here later.

Also i will put the scores of the benchmark with the system i finally choose in the appropriate thread.

More tips from other users are always welcome ofcourse!

 

cheers,

 

bazzy

Last Edit on:3/10/2011 3:57:58 PM
3/10/2011 3:55:38 PM
 
RevitBazzy
5 Posts
Joined 03/10/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  bizz3d

sorry, somehow my latest message was posted double i removed the text in this one..


Last Edit on:3/10/2011 3:56:59 PM
4/2/2011 11:51:36 AM
 
Bárbara Felipe
1 Posts
Joined 04/02/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Randi

Hi, I'm from Brazil, and I want to buy a new laptop. I decide to buy a Dell XPS 15" with this configuration:

Intel® Core™ i5-2410M (2.30Ghz, 2.90GHz with Turbo Boost, 3Mb Cache) NVIDIA® GeForce® GT525M 1GB
Memory 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 1333MHz (2x2Gb)
Hard disk 500GB (7200RPM)

But now I have more money to upgrade one of this options:

1) NVIDIA® GeForce® GT540M 2GB
2) Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM (2.00Ghz, 2.90GHz com Turbo Boost, 6Mb Cache)

3) 6GB Dual Channel DDR3 1333MHz

I use the Revit for renderization and projects. What is my best option of upgrade?

Thanks!

4/3/2011 2:51:38 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Bárbara Felipe

If I understand you correctly, you are doing mostly renderings on that machine?

I would say if you are doing mostly renderings, I would get the upgraded CPU to the quad core i7.  However, one thing to mention is that the additional RAM would go a LONG WAY for Revit files that are larger.  If you are rendering Revit files that are mostly less than 100mb, then I think 4GB is probably ok, but 6 GB would definetely help.

I wouldn't even consider the Graphics card upgrade from a Revit standpoint.  A 1 GB card for a laptop is great, and Revit should perform fine in most 3D views.

Always glad to help.

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superJMuser
Last Edit on:4/3/2011 2:52:53 PM
5/16/2011 11:27:28 AM
 
Ben C.
1 Posts
Joined 05/16/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

superJMuser
 
Thanks for this great "Conversation Starter".
Now that it's May, 2011...would you change anything this year (running Revit 2011)?
 
Thanks
Ben C.
5/16/2011 11:35:26 AM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  Ben C.

Well, the major thing I see different (with Revit 2011 and Revit 2012) is the increase in Revit's ability to use multiple cores of your processor for opening files, loading things into RAM, etc.

That said, I see much more benefit in going with a Quad Core processor over the dual core that I had suggested, but that's assuming you can get a speed that is somewhat close to what the dual core.  For example, if I was looking at a 3.2 ghz dual core, vs. say a 2.8 ghz quad, I might go ahead with the quad core route now that Revit can utilize the additional cores more often.

However, if you are talking about going from a 3.2 dual core to like a 2.4 quad, I might stick with the dual core, as the majority of your "working" operations are still single threaded, and the additional speed you have in the single core will probably out weigh any time savings you gain from the areas that are multi-threaded.

Also, look into the PCI-express RAID 0 SSDs...they are blazing fast and not that badly priced.  I think I mentioned SSDs before, but not the PCI-epxress RAID 0 SSDs, for your operating system hard drives.

Let me know if you have any other questions!

Always glad to help.

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superJMuser
5/16/2011 11:51:15 AM
 
Z-DoGG
1 Posts
Joined 04/18/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

I personally wouldn’t use a dual core even if Intel was giving them away.  If you were using Revit and only Revit there would be a reduced benefit going to a quad core, but 99% of all users have Revit, Outlook, IE, Explorer, Excel, maybe AutoCAD open at once,………In these kind of scenarios the quad core proc is the only way to go.  I would encourage you to go to this site http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html, benchmarking and pricing for all processors.  Also I would recommend a SSD for the OS and a standard spindle drive for all other data, then off load the page file to the data drive for increased speed.

5/17/2011 4:26:20 AM
 
goberre
5 Posts
Joined 08/02/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

I would like to reiterate superJMuser in an endorsment of PCI express raid 0 SSDs. I recently installed a 120GB RevoDrive and put Windows 7 64bit, all apps and current projects data files on it. I was amazed what a difference £200 could make. A blisteringly fast HD at over 400MB/s (580MB/s claimed) made apps and Revit files load and save in a tenth of the time of my SATA 2 RAID 5 array. Makes short work of any disk operations, defrag, backup etc. If budget allows get as big a one as possible as you might keep it for a long time.

5/17/2011 9:30:39 AM
 
Dustin Leifheit
1 Posts
Joined 05/16/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Hello!  For what it is worth, yes, I am a Boxx Technologies sales guy, however,  I really think our new 3960 Extreme Workstation is a great choice as a Revit machine.  It uses the new 2nd Generation i7 2600K quad-core processor and it is over-clocked to 4.5GHz.  It is liquid cooled and has dual channel memory architecture. You can get GeForce or Quadro video cards to meet your needs (we recommend Quadro for professional applications). You can get SATA, SAS, or SSD drives, and yes, we even offer the RevoDrive technology.  Check it out here: http://www.boxxtech.com/products/3DBOXX/3900_Overview.asp  This system is not for eveybody as many of you build your own, but for those of you who do not have the time or desire to build your own the 3960 Extreme Workstation may be a great fit for your performance needs. Check out "Jcrocker's" post on 4/28/11 for benchmark results on the 3960 Extreme. http://revitinfo.com/Revit_Forum/Entry_Details/EntryID/301/Computer-Benchmarking-Performance-for-Revit-AUbench-2011.aspx  Let me know if you want my email address or phone number for additional information.  Thanks for your time.

5/26/2011 5:21:47 PM
 
cwgatti
1 Posts
Joined 05/26/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

I am about to buy a Revit/CAD machine. Will this do the trick?

 

  • SAVE $21! Genuine Windows 7 Professional [64-bit]
  • Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 quad-core processor with Turbo-Boost [up to 3.8GHz, 8MB cache]
  • 16GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [4 DIMMs]
  • FREE UPGRADE! 1.5TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 750GB
  • No additional office software
  • Norton Internet Security(TM) 2011 - 15 month
  • 2GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT 530 [DVI, HDMI, VGA adapter]
  • 300W Power supply
  • FREE UPGRADE! Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
  • 16x max. DVD ROM (player)
  • Wireless-N LAN card
  • 15-in-1 memory card reader, 4 USB 2.0 (front), audio, 2 USB (top rear-facing)
  • No TV Tuner
  • Beats Audio (tm) -- integrated studio quality sound
  • HP wireless keyboard and wireless optical mouse
$1500 delivered from HP. Thoughts?

8/15/2011 9:46:27 PM
 
sam
1 Posts
Joined 08/15/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Hi,

I have revit 2012, and it seems to operate very poorly on my laptop. I can hardly rotate the model in it's basic 3d wireframe without the computer having to pause and think every time I click the mouse. This is literally a new laptop...what can I do to upgrade it so it handles revit better. Or are there settings i perhaps need to adjust.

specs are:

  • Intel Core i5 2410M 2.3GHz
  • with turbo boost up to 2.9GHz
  • 4GB DDR3 memory
  • 750 GB HDD
  • 64 - bit OpS
  • NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M, Up to 2741MB Turbo Cache

Many Thanks,

Sam

 

8/16/2011 2:07:57 AM
 
karolmos
12 Posts
Joined 03/14/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  sam

 Intel Core i5 2410M 2.3GHz - it has got only 3MB of procesor L3 cache and that's the main bottleneck for revit

try to change to 8MB L3 cache - i7  8MB - smaler HD and more Ram memory

8/16/2011 3:39:25 AM
 
sgrinavi
11 Posts
Joined 05/26/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  sam

 What model are you having problems rotating?   

That's a pretty basic system you have there, I wouldn't expect too much from it, but you'd be OK for simple stuff.

9/11/2011 12:39:49 AM
 
dbuilder
1 Posts
Joined 09/11/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  sam

 I have exactly same computer you have except, 6MB memory and I have same problem.

I think karolmos is right.

we just bought wrong computer OTL.

11/11/2011 10:52:42 AM
 
BlueFairy
2 Posts
Joined 11/11/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

 Hi,

I heard Solid State Drives are not great for revit.  That is, it doesnt give you that much speed for the price.  I was thinking of getting it with Toshiba Qosmio x77-0-BT5G24 Labtop but it had only 128 GB for the SSD.  How can it be faster if it has less memory?  

Does anybody know what is meant by Hybrid 4G Serial ATA on a 500GB (7200 RPM) hard disk drive?  That was one of the options for customization on this Toshiba Qosmio.  I heard that Revit does better on typical drives but is a hybrid a typical drive?  Perhaps all is necessary is a large GB like around 750 GB (5400rpm, Serial ATA) ?

Here are the links to two computer I've been studying.  

Toshiba Sales also recommend the Satellite over the Qosmio.  Not sure how reliable their recommendations are.  I think the issue is the harddrive.  Which is the best to get?

 

Qosmio X770-BT5G23 Laptop

 

11/11/2011 11:25:42 AM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  BlueFairy

Hi there, in my opinion, you are mistaken about SSDs not being good for Revit.  I agree they are expensive and don't have as much space, but if all you are concerned about is speed, the SSD is the way to go.  In a laptop, it does get tricky due to space limitations.  In a desktop, the way I handle it is by having a secondary 7200 RMP hard drive that has my data on it, and let the SSD have the operating system and the programs on it.

If you can afford it, you won't be dissappointed by the SSD, I would look into a laptop that has a second hard drive option if you are worried about space, or carry around a USB hard drive or a big flash drive for all your data.

Hope this helps!

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superJMuser
11/11/2011 11:45:33 AM
 
BlueFairy
2 Posts
Joined 11/11/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

Thank you for your quick response.  I do have a lot of programs... I just heard hybrids are a combination of SSD and HD.  it does seem more affordable.  Also, I do do a lot of renderings and graphics., but you did not talk much about the graphics card.  If you dont mind my asking just one more question: Is 1GB GDDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M with NVIDIA® Optimus adequate or can a 1.5 GB make it easiler for images?  

Again Toshiba Qosmio is more for gamers and i wonder if it's overkill for Revit.

11/29/2011 3:54:27 PM
 
billwill
1 Posts
Joined 11/27/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

 Excellent post, helped me out heaps, Many thanks.

12/2/2011 11:25:02 AM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  BlueFairy

I know my response is late, but Revit will go as fast as you and the computer can go.  That said, it's not like a game.  That said, it really is a budget call.

See my post here related to this issue:

http://revitinfo.com/Revit_Forum/Entry_Details/EntryID/301/Computer-Benchmarking-Performance-for-Revit-AUbench-2011.aspx#ReplyID=940

Hope this helps.

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superJMuser
2/26/2012 4:12:35 PM
 
pencilnpaper
1 Posts
Joined 02/26/2012
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

LOW-END Minimum Specs.

Out-of-work archi.  unfortunately needing a new computer. Found a very good price on a HP laptop (i5, 2.4 GHz, 6Gb Ram, 614MB DDR3 SDRAM, w/ Turbo Boost 2.0), 3GHz dual core, w/ Win7Premium (64bit).   It does NOT have a dedicated graphics card. The internal card is an Intel HD Graphics3000 w/ 1696 MB available graphics memory.

This is not meant to be a graphics work horse. I primarily use AutoCad LT from home.  BUT, I would like to be able to run Revit (and Rhino) to practice. It is ok if it takes a little longer to render.  I just want to make sure it will work at all! Any advice?

Thanks in advance!

2/26/2012 5:53:56 PM
 
sgrinavi
11 Posts
Joined 05/26/2011
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  pencilnpaper

 What's a good price?

I would want more processor, but if that's all you can afford then I guess it'll have to do.

2/27/2012 6:47:15 PM
 
mark.palacios
3 Posts
Joined 02/27/2012
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  sgrinavi

My preference for a new Revit workstation with some 3DS Max use to be purchased today (2012.02.27) would be:

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64Bit

Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 3.3 GHz
Asus Rampage IV Extreme BF3 X79 Board
Corsair Vengeance Red 32GB PC3-15000, DDR3-1866 MHz

(2) EVGA GeForce 580 Classified Video Cards, 3Gb GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0
Dell UltraSharpe U3011 30" LCD Monitor 2540x1600
(2) Dell UltraSharpe U2312HM 23" LED Monitors 1920x1280
Dell AY511 Sound Bar

Crucial CT512M4SSD 2.5" Solid State Drive 512 Gb, SATA 6Gb/s
(2) Seagate Barracuda 2TB Serial ATA Hard Drive - 2TB, 7200 RPM 64Mb 6 Gb/s RAID 1
Lite-On 12X Internal Blu-Ray Writer with Lightscribe
Western Digital 3TB USB 3.0 My Book External Backup Drive

Corsair CMPSU-1200AX 1200 Watt Power Supply
Corsair Hydro H80 CPU Liquid Cooler
Silverstone Temjin TJ09-B Aluminum ATX Case

Logitech Iluminated Keyboard
Logitech Corded Laser Mouse 1000 DPI

Mark

 

2/28/2012 3:17:19 PM
 
ranger57
8 Posts
Joined 12/08/2010
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  pencilnpaper

 Hi, have just updated a fairly mundane Acer laptop to 2gb ram, it's got 80gb hdd and 1.88 mhz Celeron processor. It uses shared graphics and I found it's fine for small projects for Revit but crashes rather often, due, I think, to the shared graphics, so try to get a laptop (if you need it to be a laptop and not a desktop) which has a dedicated graphics unit.

John

4/27/2012 2:01:23 PM
 
sushigal
1 Posts
Joined 04/27/2012
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  mark.palacios

Good afternoon!

I am looking to buy a new computer as a gift to an architect.  He will be using Revit.  If I were to print out Marks specs (as I have pasted below), and bring them to a computer store (say Micro Center) would they be able to build me a computer using these specs? Is there anything else you recommend I ask for.  I have never bought/built a new computer before, and I just want to make sure I get the right one for his workload.

Also, I do want to get him 2 monitors.  I see that there is one 30" monitor listed below, and two 23" monitors listed.  Which should I go with, the two 23" monitors?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you in advance!

__________

My preference for a new Revit workstation with some 3DS Max use to be purchased today (2012.02.27) would be:

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64Bit

Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 3.3 GHz
Asus Rampage IV Extreme BF3 X79 Board
Corsair Vengeance Red 32GB PC3-15000, DDR3-1866 MHz

(2) EVGA GeForce 580 Classified Video Cards, 3Gb GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0
Dell UltraSharpe U3011 30" LCD Monitor 2540x1600
(2) Dell UltraSharpe U2312HM 23" LED Monitors 1920x1280
Dell AY511 Sound Bar

Crucial CT512M4SSD 2.5" Solid State Drive 512 Gb, SATA 6Gb/s
(2) Seagate Barracuda 2TB Serial ATA Hard Drive - 2TB, 7200 RPM 64Mb 6 Gb/s RAID 1
Lite-On 12X Internal Blu-Ray Writer with Lightscribe
Western Digital 3TB USB 3.0 My Book External Backup Drive

Corsair CMPSU-1200AX 1200 Watt Power Supply
Corsair Hydro H80 CPU Liquid Cooler
Silverstone Temjin TJ09-B Aluminum ATX Case

Logitech Iluminated Keyboard
Logitech Corded Laser Mouse 1000 DPI


4/27/2012 4:03:03 PM
 
superJMuser
438 Posts
Joined 08/19/2009
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  sushigal

Those specs are going to be very expensive.  If I had to guess, I would guess in the realm of 5K maybe more.  You can come down on the SSD size, to a 128 GB, which will save a lot, just be sure to get a second drive at least for data.  (2) 23" monitors is great.  I work with 2 and it is really nice.  Dual graphics cards is nice, but probably overkill.  A single GTX580 or the like would do the trick fine.  The faster the processor the better, so if you can afford the 3.3 Ghz that was mentioned, thats great too.

Liquid cooling is probably not necessary, and 32 GB of RAM is A LOT more than you need.  8 GB min.  I have 12 GB many people use 16 GB.

The posted specs were intended to be a "super Revit computer", no budget type of scenario.  My recommendations above will hopefully bring you closer to budget friendly.  Hope that helps!

_______________
superJMuser
5/4/2012 3:15:12 PM
 
rauger
28 Posts
Joined 03/30/2012
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

 I use 16gb ram, 6tb hd, 2 240gb ssd, 1 gtx 580, 1 570, 1 ati 5870, 3 i7 2700k, and love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0KTWM8Ftcw

 

I will fork out for next gen GK 100, or whatever it´s called when true Fermi cores are awaileble without assrippin from the quad/tessla joke!!!

 

680 is a joke in CUDA.

 

I can afford it!, but not fuckin stupid.

5/17/2012 10:12:40 PM
 
kastenn
1 Posts
Joined 05/17/2012
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  superJMuser

HELP, I am collage Juinor studing Facility Management and I use Revit quite a bit. I am in the market for a new laptop that will run Revit but I would like to keep costs down below $1,200. I am having a very hard time trying to pick out something that will give me the best bang for my buck can you please help. I am not very computer savy so all of this computer tec talk gets me confused.

Thank you for your time

5/10/2013 8:48:31 AM
 
broadband155
1 Posts
Joined 05/10/2013
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  rauger

 Hi All,

Great info in this thread. Can you guys tell me if things have changed significantly in the past year or so? We are using Revit 2013. I was just wondering if the specs would need to be any different for it?

My impression of the above info is to use -

Windows 7 Pro 64bit. (Windows 8 better or worse?)

Fastest Intel processor affordable with most L2 cache. So, Corei7 with highest clock speed. Does Revit 2013 make more use of cores? In other words, should I still favour less cores and higher clock speeds?

More and faster ram is better with diminishing returns after 16GB?

Video card not so crucial. Any current card that is best price/performance balance?

SSD is recommended? Maybe a 128GB unit for OS and a spinning drive for backup.

Two monitors seems to be almost a requirement as it isn't really a huge extra cost.

Anything else that would help? I may want to build something, so if anyone has built a machine from scratch lately, I would love to see the specs and what you paid for he parts. Our budged is around €2k.

We use Revit with some big, detailed models.

Thanks in advance.

 

5/10/2013 10:57:19 AM
 
Joe
1 Posts
Joined 05/10/2013
Re: Best Revit Computer Specs
In Response To:  broadband155

 Hello,

While I’m not a Revit user, we at BOXX have researched this on behalf of our customers who consistently ask these questions. In order to maximize the performance of the features and tools found in Revit Architecture, your hardware platform requires outstanding core speed. As you know, by itself, Revit doesn’t take advantage of Xeon processors, dual processor systems or multiple cores. However, if you have Revit open, in all likelihood you may also have Acrobat, Photoshop, AutoCAD, 3DS Max or other programs in use as well. If you incorporate these applications into your Revit workflow, a workstation with more cores can provide superior performance.

Rendering within Revit relies on CPU performance, so a workstation with more (and faster) cores can also provide accelerated rendering performance.

As you mentioned the i7 with the highest clock speed is ideal. The advantage of the i7 processors is that they can be overclocked to high frequencies. BOXX is the only workstation manufacturer to offer overclocked systems which hold a decided advantage over other “top-of-the-line” models which are bound to a lower frequency plateau.

More in depth info can be found in this article “How to Configure the Ultimate Autodesk® Revit® Workstation”

 http://www.boxxtech.com/Media/Default/Downloads/How%20to%20Configure%20Your%20Autodesk%20Revit%20Workstation%20Matos%20edit.pdf

Thanks

Last Edit on:5/10/2013 11:01:24 AM


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