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4/7/2011 9:37:38 PM
 
Eldon
30 Posts
Joined 09/15/2010
Entry Type:
Best Practice
Category:
Copy/Monitor
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Best practise - collaboration   

Hi

Can someone give me some advise on collaboration with consultants. We are doing our first project with structural and mechanical. To date we have a full structural model which I have linked into my architectural model. Below is a list I am making assumptions about, but perhaps you could add or comment: 

Structural engineer’s drawing linked in

Steelwork (all roof steel, main steel columns, etc) – retained in linked model and monitor only, do not copy in to architectural?
 
Concrete columns – retain architectural if correct or copy/monitor in from structural?

Concrete walls – retain architectural walls and monitor only and ensure they are coordinated with structural? There are obvious issues with replacing with the structural walls e.g. structural are just precast/insitu conctete, no internal linings
 
Concrete floors – copy from structural using copy/monitor?
 
Thanks guys, Eldon
5/10/2011 7:37:43 PM
 
Eldon
30 Posts
Joined 09/15/2010
Re: Best practise - collaboration
In Response To:  Eldon

I'm just wondering if my post wasn't very clear or if people just aren't collaborating using Revit much? I notice quite a few people have looked, but no replies.

What I have learned is that Copy/Monitor doesn't work in projects with phasing, so that rules out most of our projects!!

Cheers, Eldon
5/10/2011 8:02:40 PM
 
Lonnie C
1 Posts
Joined 05/07/2011
Re: Best practise - collaboration
In Response To:  Eldon

 I had not replied because this is to big of a topic to respond to blindly. Almost anything you suggest can easily be argued right or wrong based on project conditions. Although copy monitor is a usable Revit tool, in the projects I have worked on it seldom solves the coordination issues. To answer one of your question, lots of companies are using Revit and doing coordination, but the methods are all over the board. It really comes down to your project type and what you need to coordinate. 
5/10/2011 8:20:33 PM
 
Eldon
30 Posts
Joined 09/15/2010
Re: Best practise - collaboration
In Response To:  Lonnie C

Thanks for the repsonse.

It's good to know it's not just us having these issues. Revit seems to be heading in the right direction with this, but needs to refine. However, it's not their fault if the engineer's won't issue me with regularly updated models!! (I do understand their reasons for this)

Cheers, Eldon

 
5/11/2011 5:24:24 AM
 
jcmoore2112
7 Posts
Joined 01/11/2011
Re: Best practise - collaboration
In Response To:  Eldon

Eldon,

   I to am using Revit for the first time and as I have best learned from others is the the Architect should be the driver of the project.  That means that the other disciplines should copy/monitor your model and react accordingly.  I am linking the structural in my project and will be linking the MEP model when I get it.  Most importantly is that I am still tweaking the model myself.  The other disciplines should have to react to what my model dictates.  Not sure if this will help you or not.
5/11/2011 10:53:22 AM
 
karolmos
12 Posts
Joined 03/14/2011
Re: Best practise - collaboration
In Response To:  jcmoore2112

 Mostly it depends on your needs, on small team 3-4 persons, colaboration acording to copy monitor tools is good enought when you can split you job between like windows, door, furnitire, dimensions, anotations and detailing,  so instead linear timeline you 've got the whole project finished during one week and it's coordinated between dwawings as BIM rules ... but later after architecture is ready to outer coordination with MEP & Structure it's second advantage level - you can get really online coordination aspecialy whan you use virtualization of you desctops on the same server... but it's another subject sorry
5/12/2011 12:48:25 AM
 
Eldon
30 Posts
Joined 09/15/2010
Re: Best practise - collaboration
In Response To:  karolmos

Thanks for the replies, it has been useful. Will keep working on it!

Cheers, Eldon


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